INTERVIEW WITH DR. JOHN L ARMSTRONG

Andrew: In this interview we’re going to talk to Client Dr. John Armstrong who is a professional certified coach, consultant, Author, speaker, psychologist, NLP certified coach, and spiritual coach and how he went from being a modern day slave working 120 hours per week, making 20k per month max, to working just 3 hours Per Year, and last month receiving $242,000!

Andrew: Welcome Dr. Armstrong. How are you?

John: I’m very well Andrew. Thanks. And you?

Andrew: I’m good too John. I’m glad to have you on this interview so you can share your experience with other coaches and consultants who are now in the modern day slavery trap, and share with them what you did to get out, and how your transition was… if it was easy or challenging… and what you suggest other coaches do to escape the same modern day slavery trap.

John: Certainly Andrew. Well, you would know more than anyone else. I consider you my mentor, coach and savior if you will allo…(cuts off)

Andrew: Thank you so much John for those kind words. I appreciate it. But you were the one to take the first step and reach out and work together.

John: Yes, that’s true. But without you, I’d not be here. So, where should we begin?

Andrew: Let’s start with you telling a little bit about how you found me and what your life was currently like then. Including your coaching business… profits, sales, and just what your day-to-day looked like back then.

John: Sure. Well… it started out that I was a coach and consultant grinding away for decades. My income capped out against an invisible ceiling at about $250,000 per year. I was working 120 or more hours per week to achieve this. But I could never beat it.

Also, like I just said, I was working at least 120 hours per week. I would say I definitely fit the category of what you call a modern day slave. Though I was enjoying my work as I did what I loved, I still was trapped trading hours-for-dollars, and never able to just take off and enjoy traveling for 3 years and still have money coming in.

Anyway, I was working like this for decades. I raised 3 children and lived in a decent area of town.

But after decades of doing this, I thought to myself, ‘Is that all there is? Is this life? Just work a grind and then you die?’

I became discontent the way things seemed to ‘work’ but didn’t know how to change anything.

One morning at 7:15am I received an email from you.

I remember main premise was about you being a multi-millionaire coach and consultant and have helped countless other coaches and consultants escape this modern day slavery trap.

I was intrigued so clicked the link in the email to get a free gift you were giving away.

It was educational materials and training about your system you have about taking coaches and consultants out of the slavery trap within 8-weeks.

Basically, you detailed the whole process and talked about how and why coaches and consultants can automate their value, and have a robust monthly membership that does this for them.

In the content you share how to do this and the common mistakes and errors that will destroy any chance of success doing it.

It was then that my eyes where opened and I just ‘got-it’. The lightbulb went on and I just knew this was it!

So I read all the materials and then filled out a form for a complementary strategy session with you, where you give a complete customized 6-7 figure escape modern day slavery roadmap customized to my situation.

That was the decision that changed my life. 

Truth is, I was sold on you and wanted to hire you before talking to you.

Andrew: That’s great John. What a intro story.

John: Yeah, well I guess the rest is as they say ‘history’.

I hired you by sending your large fee. You weren’t cheap you know?

Andrew: I know. I’m quite expensive. That’s for good reason though.

John: Yes, what you said was true. Those who invest a higher fee actually take everything much more seriously and it qualifies the best, most motivated, most happy clients.

I even had to raise the money to pay it. But doing so, and investing, I felt a zeal and energy that I hadn’t before. If anything to make sure it worked.

Andrew: Yes, that is what I want to have happen. Somehow when people action faith with investing a larger sum, the universe conspires to help them. I don’t know how to describe it, but after helping other coaches and consultants for so long and seeing the difference, its company policy.

John: Yes, it’s like its actually to the benefit of the Client. For sure.

Andrew: True. It is to their benefit more than anyone else.

John: Well I’m glad I did it and I remember going to my bank to bankwire transfer you the money because my banks online system had trouble sending it from online.

Andrew: So let’s talk about what your average sale was back then?

John: Oh, I charged packages and hourly. Hourly about $250 per hour.

Andrew: And was business stable all the time or did you worry where your next client was coming from?

John: Sometimes it was consistent, but that wouldn’t last long. I had many periods of yo-yo style income. Up, down, up, down, up, down.

Andrew: How did you deal with that problem?

John: I didn’t! It sucked to be honest.

Andrew: Yes, yo-yo style income causes a lot of stress.

John: I didn’t escape that problem until I hired you.

Andrew: Yes, the beauty of my system and membership launch is you have consistent high income for life because it’s monthly and members stay around for at least 10 years and refer 3-5 more.

John: You know, I wouldn’t have been able to believe it unless I just jumped in and experienced it for myself.

Andrew: That’s often the case. Doubt can hold people back from their dream life.

John: A little nagging voice or feeling that seems to keep us stuck huh?

Andrew: Yes, but you used hypnosis on yourself if I recall you saying?

John: Yes, I’m a bit lucky because I’m a certified hypnotherapist and I understand this stuff. When I observed the doubts telling me negative thoughts and feelings, I decided to fight back and do hypnosis on myself by just choosing to ‘act as if’ I was fully certain this would work and confident.

Andrew: That’s hypnosis?

John: Oh yes, it is what successful business people and sports people learn to do. It really can help a lot. One doesn’t need to actually see a therapist that might actually do more harm than good. Just act confident, feel confident, and don’t let the habitual doubt control you. That’s what it’s about, in this case.

Andrew: I see. Makes sense.

So tell us what your initial goals were when we worked together?

John: Yes. I just wanted to be able to stop working and make 20k per month still, so I had no loss of income, but gained freedom.

Andrew: Andrew how did we fare?

John: Oh god. We’ve well beat that didn’t we!?

Andrew: Yes, we have. Would you like to give the listeners the details?

John: Sure. Last month, I worked zero hours. None. And I made $242,000! The system you helped me build literally works and runs automatically, builds more members organically through existing members, and delivers my value automatically.

Andrew… I’d have never believed this was possible.

My life is so free now. Its projected I’ll only need to actually work 3 hours this year. And that’s just fulfilling on a little Q&A to members in a group forum for 30 mins and uploading a little value content that takes me almost no time at all.

Andrew: Wonderful John. I’m so happy for your results, success, and lifestyle freedom. It’s the same for many coaches and consultants I help build and launch this within 8-weeks.

John: I know that’s true. I liked meeting some of the others at your event you held in Los Angeles, California last year.

Andrew: Yes, that was fun.

John: I found many of the others had a similar story that I did.

Andrew: Yeah, I know a lot of them do.

John: Why don’t you do another one of those events? The food and drinks and entertainment was great.

Andrew: I might. I’m just busy living free and enjoying life too. But in the future sometime, I’ll get everyone together again to just have a meet up and celebrate. Don’t know when yet though.

John: Right on.

Andrew: So John, what were your biggest barriers to success before I helped you?

John: Doing everything wrong for so long! Being an old-dog who couldn’t learn new tricks, nor was good in technology.

Also, I lacked the expertise to really create a successful launch campaign for the membership, launch it, and manage it to success over 8-weeks. There’s no way I could have done that myself.

Andrew: I see. So it was a lack of having an expert like me to really help you do it all and make sure it’s a success.

John: Exactly.

Andrew: What has been the payout from working together?

John: Well, I already touched on it with my income going from 20k max per month to last month making $242,000 automatically. Also, my freedom from working 120+ hours to make 20k to now only needing to work 3 hours per year.

I bought a house in Hawaii, as well, I know another one of your clients James who also bought a home in Hawaii on another island though.

I travel a lot more.

I enjoy waking up whenever I want, wherever I want, doing whatever I want, with whoever I want. The definition of success which is great income growth to enjoy any quality life I want, and total lifestyle freedom.

I’m actually enjoying my retirement years unlike so many others who are broke or slaving away into retirement.

I’d be doing the same if I didn’t work with you Andrew.

Andrew: For sure John.

What do you suggest any other coaches or consultants do to get your results, who might be listening to this interview?

John: Hire Andrew. Stop everything you are doing right now and hire Andrew. It doesn’t matter if you are bogged down, busy, or have other obligations. Just stop. Prioritize working with Andrew above all else and getting his help, he’ll change everything for you.

Andrew: Nice John. I’m grateful for your kind words again and for being willing to do this interview.

John: You are more than welcome Andrew.

Andrew: Thanks John. Talk later friend.

John: Thank you. Talk soon.

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That’s it for this interview where I interviewed my client Dr. John Armstrong about his experience working together. What it was like before he hired me and after. The process he took to escape modern day slavery and more. I hope this interview inspires you to make a automated business out of your coaching or consulting practice. With my help, you can escape the modern day slavery trap fast. Simply watch the webinar or download your complementary escape modern day slavery guide on this site to learn more details and the 5-steps you need to take to make this happen now.

Do you own a ‘real’ coaching or consulting business or a job?

FROM THE DESK OF: ANDREW SONCTRANM

“World Renown Expert In 6-7 Figure Automated Coaching And Consulting Business Creation”

Dear future lifestyle free coach or consultant,

I’m a multi-millionaire coach and consultant and have been receiving high 6-7 figures and more per year in my automated membership niches for over 17 years, at the time of this writing.

I’ve been able to travel the world all year in style for over 10 years, fulfilling a lifelong dream, buy dream cars, and own 5 private large luxury homes throughout the world in places I love, I paid in full for.

That’s all nice, but it’s the total and complete lifestyle freedom I treasure the most.

I wake up when I want, where I want, and do whatever I want, how I want, where I want, with who I want every single day of my life.  

And when I travel and stay at amazing places throughout the world, I’m not talking about staying at budget hotels and locations. I’m talking about staying in the best-of-the-best locations everywhere I go.

This enhances your experience wherever you go and makes travel even better.

It is normal for me to never look at the prices of places I stay, nor the price of the foods I order at fancy restaurants. I don’t check the price of the suits, cars, or watches I buy. I just see it, and buy it. I don’t even realize I do this unless someone I’m with, a friend, or romance points it out to me.

I don’t say this to brag, nor to impress you… But only to impress upon you what is possible and the high quality of life, freedom, and enjoyment you can have when you have your own membership based coaching or consulting business that runs on auto-pilot for you.

I’m absolutely certain you can have the same thing too!

I know this might sound too good to be true for you, but this is real. Its what’s easily and realistically possible when you use smart business and systems.

After all, business was set up so that when done right you can live the dream! If you are a employee you your business without a reliable continuity income that works without you, you can’t live the promised dream.

The reality is, this is currently working for hundreds of coaches and consultants like you that I’ve personally helped.

Let me ask you some quick questions…

Do you own a ‘real’ coaching or consulting business or a job?

You might think you do, but consider this:

Can you walk away from your business for the next 5 years and have 6-7 figures or more coming in without you needing to do anything, without you needing to perform any task, without you needing to manage anything, or work with any clients?

Are you working ‘in’ your business instead of ‘on’ your business?

Do you have a predictable, reliable, consistent 6-7 figure income coming in every year, without fail, even if you travel all year, live on a tropical island with no internet, and have no employees?

Do you have to trade ‘hours-for-dollars’?

Do you have a membership business that makes you consistent, reliable, 6-7 figure income that is totally automated with your value delivery even easily automated for years at a time?

Do you know how to deliver your value at this level in less than just a few simple hours of set up?

Does this system reliably get members to get 3-5 new paying members over the long-term without fail?

If you answered ‘no’ to any of these questions, you don’t have a ‘real’ business as a coach or consultant.

Instead, you own a job. And J.O.B. stands for Just Over Broke.

Unless you own a real business, namely a automatically running membership business that is set up perfectly for your unique situation, you will never have a real business.

Because the definition of a real business means you know reliably that every month X amount of sizable money is coming in rain or shine. And you know that years down the road, if you do nothing ‘in’ your business, it runs and works so you don’t have to and with certainty you know this significant income will be coming in.

That is a real business.

Ask yourself: do you have this as a coach or consultant, right now?

If not yet. This must be your first priority above all else.

Not making another sale.

Not lead generation.

Not funnel building.

Not making a so-called high ticket sale.

Not investing in lame training programs or certifications.

Not attending speaking events or events.

Not using Linked-In, Facebook, YouTube, or Instagram.

Not wasting money in social media advertising.

Not SEO.

Not Google advertising.

Not direct mail.

Not podcasts.

Not publicity.

Not blogging.

Not content marketing.

Not chasing the next shiny-object whatever it may be.

What you need is a reliable, stable, secure, consistent income that comes in rain or shine, no matter what you do or don’t do in your business. You must be able to achieve this kind of reliable income, freedom, and certainty or you don’t have a real business.

Let me be frank:

You do not and will never have this real business without an automatically running continuity business set up in your coaching or consulting practice that gives you total lifestyle freedom and great income.

You are doomed to struggle, suffer, and live lower status for no other reason than this.

A membership business giving you this 6-7 figure or more income + total lifestyle freedom, will make you instantly live a high status lifestyle.

It’s what you lack now that if you owned it, it would completely give you lifestyle freedom and erase your money worries for good and much more.

I enjoy the results I do because I figured out and created a unique system I could use as a coach and consultant to give me total lifestyle freedom and 6-7 figures or more per year, automatically.

It took me years, and year, and years to piece this together.

It’s not secret, I’ve since helped hundreds of coaches and consultants just like you do the same thing.

The coaches and consultants lucky enough to get my help praise my name from the roof tops, and that’s for good reason. I’ve changed their lives for the better, fast.

But before I created this system, I was struggling just like you are now. I was overworked, low-paid, and frustrated… I might have been even worse off because I was also depressed, homeless for a period of time, and didn’t know where my next client or meal would come from.

That was before I created this system that quickly changed my life when I mastered it.

Like creating a jet engine, it look a lot of work. But once I created it, all the hard work was done and the scientifically reliable model was there. And by scientifically reliable I mean just that…

… if you are a coach or consultant this is reliable as aerodynamics, mathematics, and how a new luxury car drives. It has been scientifically worked out to give perfect results coach to coach, consultant to consultant.

You just need it customized for your unique situation and set up within 8-weeks and your all set.

Go retire! Have fun! Travel the world!

No more money worries.

If that doesn’t sound believable, it’s only because you haven’t got on the plane yet… similar to how if I said 200 years ago, get in a tin can, fly across the world, land safely. People would have thought you were nuts if they haven’t seen it. But today it’s ‘normal’. The same thing is now true for the coaching and consulting industry. When you use my system, you can get this result too!

You can get the same results when you use the system.

Here’s 4-easy-steps of how it works. The pieces of the process:

1)      Research and data phase

2)      Material creation phase

3)      Optimization phase

4)      Rollout phase

To get into a bit more details on each of the 4 vital phases:

Phase 1: Research phase.

This is where all the data is collected on your niche, market, offering, opportunities, clients hot buttons, best niches to target, best value propositions, and the best thing you should be offering in an online monthly membership long-term.

This is broken down to be the simplest, sustainable, and easy possible. Many coaches and consultants think this is the hard part, but it’s easy actually.

And much more data.

From this rich research data, we’ll know how to best move forward for you into phase 2.

Phase 2: Material creation phase.

This is the phase where your materials should be created based on the rich database and strategic direction taken from it.

All strategic decisions should be based on data.

And from there, all communications, branding, tools, tactics, action plans etc…

…the key is fitting this into the proven framework and system I’ve developed for coaches and consultants that has been proven, tried-tested-and refined in the fire, battle tested to win again-and-again for you.

From fitting the research and strategic unique communication developed for you from this, into the unique and only proven system in the world for coaches and consultants that I created, you are on the sure-fire path of great results.

Basically, we take the proven Jet airplane but paint it with your name on it so it’s unique to you and all your members.

Phase 3: Optimization phase.

Here is where your system now needs to be tested. From the research data usually a few niches will be uncovered along with all their relevant and unique data.

Since the materials are all created and fit into the system, we can now test them all by doing an optimization campaign. A short, little online campaign to quickly test and see the results.

Based on which one performed the best… is the winning race-horse, we pick that to base your launch campaign on for the next 8-weeks.

We now know with pin-point accuracy where your sales are, conversions are, performance metrics, and what opportunity in messaging the market most responds to.

We also know you are going to have a huge success 500-1,000 members within 8-weeks at the $97-$297 monthly membership per month price range.

We now know, that with no loss at all, no advertising loss, just pure profits on all acquisition of members, you will have a huge success with zero risk at all moving forward in your campaign that is managed day-by-day to ensure its success and same results throughout the full campaign.

This is called scientific advertising.

Trackable, traceable, accountable marketing that gets you winning results. Are you starting to see the light? Good.

This is how effective professional campaigns work.

Phase 4: Rollout Campaign

This is where it’s all said-and-done over an 8-week launch period.

The goal, when all the research, material creation, and testing has been optimized should be to get you at least 500-1,000 members for your online membership business in your coaching or consulting practice.

It should have all been established and proven during the testing and optimization phase.

With absolute certainty the campaign should be able to be rolled out with expectant result.

Once the campaign runs its course, the benchmark of success is the 500-1,000 or more members acquired.

Remember, this small amount of members at the lowest-end of the average customer members and lowest-end of the price range at 500 members at $97 each is $48,500 per month, month-after-month for all the future months. $582,000 per year, year-after-year.

Automatically. Recurring. Passive income.

This isn’t a pipedream. This is real, actionable, provable, realistic, achievable, profitable, honest, transparent, powerful, effective, scientific, trackable, reliable, accountable marketing campaigns that work for coaches and consultants when used with my system developed specifically for you, the coach or consultant.

This should be your #1 priority.

Right now, stop all else you are doing in your coaching or consulting business and prioritize getting this up and running before you do anything else.

I’d even go as far as saying you should even fire all your current clients so you can free up your time, and just get this up. You’ll make a lot more money back later anyway. It can all be up within 8-weeks and making you this kind of higher status, lifestyle freedom, 6-7 figure or more income.

If you have been struggling as a coach or consultant for a few years, a decade, or even decades. The time to change everything around is now.

I promise you, you’ll be very happy when you do.

And I’m here to help you, and make sure you don’t make any of the most deadly and common mistakes.

The deadly mistakes to be avoided are:

1)      DIY - Doing it yourself without a proven experts help. That’s like trying to perform heart-surgery on yourself after reading a training manual on how to perform heart surgery – it will just make a big mess. This is the deadliest mistake.

2)      Trying to reinvent the wheel (I spent years and years inventing the only proven system. If the wheel is already created, you just need to use it right? Yes. And remember that pioneers come back with arrows in their backs).

3)      Not reaching out for professional help for your specific market. You don’t need a general solution. It won’t work well and it will cause more frustration than not. You need to have a specialist solution for only coaches and consultants.

4)      Not being willing to invest in the best. This is self-explanatory. You need what you pay for.

5)      Doubt. Not believing it’s possible for you too. No matter your coaching or consulting niche, service, value offering. This will work for you. Your business is no different.

6)      Don’t do slow. You should be able to have a 6-7 figure membership business in 8-weeks. If you try to go slow, you’ll never pick up momentum and achieve the level of a self-sustaining business that grows organically and has ‘lifestyle freedom’ 6-7 profits coming in. Going slow is just discouraging, and especially if you don’t have the right strategies, methods, and tactics all in place customized for your unique situation.

If you avoid these common deadly mistakes that kill your chance of higher status income, success, and lifestyle freedom in your coaching or consulting business, you’ll be able to quickly and easily own a ‘real’ business without any dangerous failures, wasted time, and frustrations.

Instead, you’ll be enjoying the highlife and living life on your terms, with total lifestyle freedom, enjoyment and a sense of accomplishment and success you’ll be very happy about. Plus, your friends and family will be proud of you too.

I can’t tell you how many coaches and consultants I’ve helped achieve this within 8-weeks told me they retired their spouse. Many have told me it’s the happiest day of their lives.

I can promise you.

I’m here for you. I understand you. I know you. I’ve been in your shoes. I’ve struggled. I’ve felt hopeless. And I’ve overcame.

In good faith, if you extend your hand to put it safely, warmly, and firmly in mine, I won’t ever let you down. I will be able to make you free.

Right now, I urge you to do all you can to prioritize getting up your own membership business in your coaching and consulting business so you have actually own a real business that brings you in reliable 6-7 figures or more per year, automatically, while you truly enjoy a lifestyle of total freedom and escape the modern day slavery trap. It’s more than possible for you too!

Andrew Sonctranm is the world renown expert on 6-7 figure automated coaching and consulting business creation. Creator of the ‘Escape Modern Day Slavery’ system for coaches and consultants. You can get a gift of the full system and FREE complete customized 6-7 figure automated coaching or consulting business roadmap totally customized to your unique business, situation, or idea here: http://EscapeModernDaySlavery.com